September 29, 2023
NFL

The Best and Worst from Lions-Packers

One takeaway is the Lions look like a top-10 team
Green Bay Packers running back Aaron Jones (33) runs for a short gain during the third quarter of their game Thursday, September 28, 2023 at Lambeau Field in Green Bay, Wis. The Detroit Lions beat the Green Bay Packers 34-20. (© Mark Hoffman/Milwaukee Journal Sentinel / USA TODAY NETWORK)

Intro: I watch the TNF games (and every NFL game) live, then watch it again on tape for scouting Fantasy/DFS and future betting (player props) purposes. And like a restaurant or movie ‘critic’, I’m here to report my critiques of this nationally televised game -- pro and con.

My name is R.C. Fischer, and I am a decade+ long football scout and Fantasy writer/player (and bettor) of football things...and I watch football games for a living. I am a fan of no NFL team … except the one that I may have bet on that particular game. I review/study game tape for personal profit (or loss) in DFS and handicapping/props.

Let’s take a look at what I witnessed, the good and the bad, in this game on my every Friday series on Sportstopia critiquing the ‘Best and the Worst’ of the Thursday Night Football game.

Here is the BEST and WORST of TNF Week 4, Lions at Packers.

BEST: What’s Better Than Winning One Milly Maker DFS Contest on DraftKIngs?

Last week, Week 3, FSL’s Optimizer WON the TNF DraftKings DFS Milly Maker...a MILLION DOLLARS...split with 125 other people. I was just impressed that I was some kind of part of the data and strategy that won a million-dollar contest already with this new Optimizer software.

Daryl Snyder, FSL CEO, told me upfront when my company started partnering up with his – that he had a goal to win two Milly Makers...and he wanted to start accomplishing that goal by winning one to start. It was a joking statement/goal, but also, he was serious – and that’s what we’re in this for...is to prove the quality of the FSL Optimizer tool and the scouting/projections data provided. So, last week – we got his ‘one’.

Well, it didn’t take long to get Part II of the initial goal completed...because the very next week, this game Week 4 – win #2...two in-a-row. That’s insane – but it’s not pure luck. It’s the quality of the Optimizer tools, and the brains and balls of the man running the software for FSL (Mr. Snyder) converting the football info/scouting into action/strategy for the Optimizer’s line up setting, and it’s the scouting and projection data provided by firms like mine at Fantasy Football Metrics – all of it coming together like a beautiful symphony.

Back-to-back wins, this 2nd win/first prize title was only shared with 74 other people. So, a bigger slice for FSL.

WORST: Winning is Contagious...and Ups the Ante!

I just mentioned (above) that Daryl stated his goal was to win two DFS Milly Makers...that’s what he told me, but after the Week 3 win -- he wanted to clarify and change the goal to a modification of: he wants to win the actual million-dollar prize alone and not just share it!

Hey, I was told the goal was to win two Milly Makers...and we did...Mission Accomplished! Right?

Daryl is right...the goal has to be the solo win to really move the needle, move the company forward/higher. So, it’s one night to celebrate the improbable back-to-back wins...and then back to the coal mines to study more football to now win one of these things all alone for the seven-figure dream.

Football never sleeps. There’s always a next contest to conquer. The good news for FSL – we’re doing some kick-ass conquering.

BEST: The Detroit Lions Overall

On our TNF DFS preview podcast on Sportstopia Thursday, I spoke about how strong the Lions have looked on tape all season and that they had made their move to being one of the clear top 10 best executing, all-around teams in the league, heading toward trying to get into the top 5 best – they are that good.

With that as a lead-in the Lions went out and dominated in all facets right off the bat. Detroit led 27-3 at the half while holding Green Bay to just 21 yards total offense by the half.

It was a thorough beating handed out by the clear front runner for the NFC North.

Our prize-winning DFS strategy in this game was born from a belief that Detroit would most likely dominate the Packers and put the Pack into late-game catchup mode for passing numbers. And we pretty much called it in advance on the Sportstopia TNF podcast.

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WORST: The Green Bay Packers in the 1st Half

Green Bay was a constant three-and-out in the 1st-half and looked like they might never complete a forward pass or run for positive yardage. It was 24-3 Detroit 16+ minutes into the game and the Packers were lucky it wasn’t worse than that. An awful display by the Packers.

BEST: The Green Bay Packers in the 2nd Half

Well, at least the Packers didn’t rollover like the Denver Broncos did last week at Miami. Green Bay actually closed the gap to 27-17 at the beginning of the 4th-quarter. The Packers fans got back into it, and it looked like we might have an exciting finish. We didn’t...but at least it kept the game interesting and gave Packers fans some hope (delusions) going forward.

WORST: No Exciting Finish

Quay Walker decided to try and (illegally) jump the O-Line to try and block a field goal, a field goal attempt that the Packers defense worked so hard to halt Detroit from scoring a touchdown so they could stay two scores away with some left to mount a legit comeback – but the Walker penalty erased the field goal and gave Detroit a fresh set of downs deep in the red zone, that wound up an eventual TD and provided the dagger to the Pack.

BEST: Winning the Game Bet...Early

DFS isn’t the only way to profit from the TNF game. Taking our scouting to project the game script, I bet on Detroit -2.0 for this game...and that got in the bag rather quickly, with no real risk that it would escape with late game shenanigans.

I like the bets where it’s not down to the wire praying for a kicker to miss a last second field goal or praying for a fumble or praying for an unusual lightning storm to come along and get the game canceled so that the bet would just be refunded. No, I got to enjoy this one without stress all the way through...pretty much...thanks to Quay Walker for relieving any of my possible stress.

WORST: I Lost the Game Bet Proceeds on a Props Bet

My BEST BET of this game...failed.

Keisean Mixon, slot cornerback for Green Bay – I took the OVER 3.5 tackles prop at (+120) in DraftKings on him this game.

When Mixon has played 65% or more of the snaps in a game, he has hit 4 or more tackles in a game five times in 6 those games where he played heavily...and this night he would be on Amon-Ra St. Brown quite a bit, so lots of throws/catches headed Mixon’s way expected, which elevates tackle count hopes. Well, Detroit blew Green Bay out so fast that the Lions throttled down the passing game and instead of his usual 7-8 catches, Amon-Ra ‘only’ had 5 catches here, one for a TD (so, no tackle count possible).

Mixon wound up with 2 total tackles officially...and one missed tackle I saw (because you watch these guys like a hawk when you got money on the line) where he smashed a receiver pretty hard but the ballcarrier kind of had their momentum pushed forward by the hit and then ran into the hands of someone else who got credit for the tackle.

These are the things that drive Prop bettors out of their minds. Actually, good thing he didn’t get that 3rd tackle in like the 3rd-quarter – because then he would have needed one more tackle to pay off and I would’ve watched the rest of the game in agony watching him NOT get anymore tackles.

BEST: Can’t Run on the Lions

The Lions run defense shut down the Falcons top run offense last week...22 carries for 44 yards. This game, they crushed the Packers run game to 12 carries and 27 yards total.

One of the main themes of the DFS preview podcast, and for setting lineups, accordingly, was talking about the Lions run D. Now, the world will be talking about it the next week/s. Good luck to Miles Sanders next week.

WORST: Luke Musgrave, Fantasy Week 4 Killjoy

I got into Luke Musgrave this week in some DFS lineups and in traditional head-to-head Fantasy leagues. Musgrave is a great rookie talent and had a really nice output last week/Week 3 with some opportunity left on the table due to a couple Jordan Love overthrows.

This night: One catch...one yard...out with a concussion before halftime, and as soon as he is gone the other TEs get 6 catches from then on in.

Fantasy is a wicked beast too often.

BEST: Brian Branch Miraculously Returns

Lions rookie Brian Branch looked like he had a bad leg injury in this game, and he got carted off the field...a huge loss for the Lions and felt bad for the young man.

Then, a little while later, we saw Branch on the sideline getting taped up and then back in the game. A thankful stroke of good fortune for Branch and the Lions. Happy to see that!

WORST: Brian Branch is Still Playing?

With the Lions way up late, Branch was still in the game and...and he got hurt again and had to be helped off the field. Did he really need to be out there late? Who is managing the personnel? We see this risk taken all the time in the regular season. Yet, in the preseason they try to put everyone in bubble wrap. Do better by your stars NFL coaches!

See you next week/TNF Week 5 (Chicago at Washington) ...where we go for an insane third Milly Maker 1st Place in a row. It’s impossible to do...but I said that about winning a 2nd in-a-row this week. So, what do I know?

-- R.C.

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Weather Report:

There are only three games on the slate today and none should be impacted by precipitation.

Injury Report:

Jorge Soler - Hip - He left Tuesday’s contest against the Rays with right hip tightness. He is considered day-to-day and could be ready to go against the Nationals.

Lane Thomas - Back - He was lifted prior to the seventh inning due to back soreness. It doesn’t sound serious but there is a chance he sits out Thursday.

Mitch Haniger - Rest - Haniger returned from the injured list on Tuesday and sat out against a righty but the team said it was only due to rest. He should be ready to go on Thursday.

Starting Pitchers (DK-FD)

Spencer Strider: 12,500-12,000

Lance Lynn: 8,800-9,500

Braxton Garrett: 8,200-8,700

Pedro Avila: 6,300-6,700

Joan Adon: 5,400-6,400

Sean Manaea: 5,000-7,300

Spencer Strider is the highest-priced pitcher for the slate, which shouldn’t be surprising. He easily leads the slate with a 2.75 SIERA, 1.06 WHIP, and 38 percent strikeout rate. His 1.06 HR/9 is the highest of his career, without taking the two game appearance in the majors late in 2021 into account. His 60 percent HR/Barrel rate is above league average, which indicates that he could be getting a bit unlucky with the long ball. He faces a tough team in the Dodgers which makes the 12K+ price tag a bit steep.

Strider gets to go toe-to-toe with Lance Lynn in the last game in the slate on Tuesday. To say that Lynn has had an up-and-down season is a bit of an understatement. Lynn has a 3.99 SIERA, 1.38 WHIP, and 26 percent strikeout rate on the season but most of the damage was done while he was a member of the Chicago White Sox. Since joining the Dodgers, he has a 4.30 SIERA, 1.06 WHIP, and 21 percent strikeout rate. He faces a very tough task of facing the Braves in Dodgers Stadium. Since both of these pitchers face uphill battles, going cheap on the pitching while loading up on bats, could work tonight.

Braxton Garrett gets to face the Nationals for the second game in a row. Last time out, he allowed three runs over six innings while only picking up three strikeouts. This time around, he will be in the Nationals home ballpark, which has been below league average when it comes to the long ball, especially with the forecast projecting the winds to be blowing into the ballpark.

Batter to Target

Joan Adon is a pitcher that could be easily exploited in this small slate. His 4.44 SIERA is easily the worst of the group ad Nationals Park is a bit hitter-friendly this season. While the Marlins hitters have struggled in the second of the season Jake Burger ($4,100 on DK and $3,000 on FanDuel) could be an option for fantasy managers looking some cheap power.

Stack Attack

Marlins (Braxton Garrett) vs. Nationals:

DK-FD

Lane Thomas: 4,900-3,200

Keibert Ruiz: 4,000-2,600

Joey Meneses: 4,400-2,700

If Lane Thomas is ready to go on Thursday, he is a must add. The 28-year-old is hitting .346/.393/.591 with eight homers and nine stolen bases against southpaws this season. Ruiz and Meneses also have been above league average against left-handed pitching while hitting towards the top of the Nationals lineup.

Giants (Manaea) vs. Padres:

DK-FD

Ha-Seong Kim: 4,900-3,100

Gary Sanchez: 3,800-2,600

Garrett Cooper: 2,900-2,400

Trent Grisham: 2,800-2,500

The Giants haven’t officially named a starter for Thursday’s contest against the Padres but Sean Manaea figures to fill in as the bulk reliever. Ha-Seong Kim has been out of his mind in the second half of the season, while posting a season long line of .329/.413/.579 with eight homers and ten stolen bases against left-handed pitching. Sánchez and Grisham have also hit above league average against lefties and can be add at some really low prices. Cooper has moved up to sixth in the Padres batting order after Jake Cronenworth landed on the injured list with a fractured wrist. If the Padres bats come to life at the top of the order, you could pick up some RBIs at a considerably low price point.

It’s another full slate of games Wednesday, and there are more than a handful of interesting options to gander over. Colorado-Atlanta provides some intriguing value, but a ‘lesser’ game like Kansas City taking on Pittsburgh also offers intrigue.

Here are tonight’s Underdog and Prizepicks plays for Wednesday’s MLB slate.

Bobby Witt Jr. 1.5 Total Bases - Higher (Underdog)

It’d be hard to overstate just how good the Royals' infielder has been in August, as the young star has hit.327/.379/.626 with eight homers while stealing nine bags and driving in 21 runs even for a weak team. On Wednesday, he’ll go up against the Pirates' Andre Jackson; who pitched decently over his last two starts but offers plenty of opportunity with less-than-spectacular stuff. Don’t be surprised if Witt Jr. offers a combo meal with a homer and a steal, and he’s a good bet to reach the over on that 1.5 total.

Nolan Jones : 1.5 Total Bases - Higher (Prizepicks)

Somewhat quietly, Jones has been one of the better rookies in baseball, coming into Wednesday with a slash of .271/.353/.488. He’ll get a chance to place in the friendly confines of Coors Field, and the former Cleveland prospect will also get a chance to face a right-hander who is making his MLB debut in Darius Vines. Jones is hitless in his last three games, and while that makes things a little more nerve-wracking, it also means he’s due for a big game.

Matt Olson: 0.5 RBI - More (Prizepicks)

Olson will be going up against a lefty in Kyle Freeland, and while he is statistically worse against southpaws than he is righties, worse is a subjective term considering he’s posted an .891 OPS with nine homers and 27 RBI over his 125 plate appearances. Add in the fact he’ll be playing in the friendly confines of Coors Field with some elite hitters hitting in front of him, and Olson is as good of a bet for an RBI as any player Wednesday.

Dane Dunning: 4.0 strikeouts - Higher (Underdog)

Dunning has been able to miss bats at much higher rate as of late, with 39 strikeouts over 29.2 innings of work in his five starts thus far in August. The Mets certainly offer a chance for missed bats, and are not exactly in striking distance for a playoff spot. Dunning should be able to hit his mark as long as he can throw enough strikes to do so; something he admittedly struggled with Friday against the Twins.

Brandon Pfaadt : 4.5 Strikeouts - Lower (Underdog)

There’s reason for long-term upside with Pfaadt, as he was one of the best minor-league hurlers in baseball in 2022, and there have been some flashes of brilliance in 2023 despite his ugly 5.91 ERA and 1.36 WHIP over 67 innings during his rookie campaign. Asking him to reach this total is asking him to work deep against the Dodgers, a lineup that is as feared as any in all of baseball. There’s just too much risk on betting overs with Pfaadt against this kind of team.

The Houston Astros have terrorized the Boston Red Sox this week, putting up 19 runs over the last two games, both of which started by two of Boston’s best pitchers, Chris Sale and Brayan Bello.

Sale and Bello kept the games close, giving up three and two earned runs respectively, but the bullpen couldn’t contain Houston’s bats. Jose Altuve hit for the cycle in the first game, and Yordan Álvarez homered in both games, hitting seven for nine over the two nights.

Vlad Jr Could Go Off Wednesday

The Contrarian Edge Optimizer likes the idea of doubling down on the Astros stack -- a lineup that tied a franchise record 66 hits in the last four games -- but there are also alternatives to consider. Specifically, take a look at Toronto and Seattle. Both have excellent matchups today, so let’s take a closer look.

The Blue Jays face off against Patrick Corbin and the Nationals at the Rogers Centre this afternoon. Vladimir Guerrero Jr. ($5000) could be poised for a big day. He’s riding a 10-game hitting streak, during which time he's slashing .302/.333/.438 with two home runs.

If you’re looking for some cheaper options to round out your lineup, keep an eye on both Blue Jays catchers. Danny Jansen ($3600) and Alejandro Kirk ($3000) are each available for less than $4000 on Draft Kings and rostering them should allow you a few extra dollars to roster a top tier bat or one of the three best pitchers on today’s card.

Either Santiago Espinal ($2400) or Whit Merrifield ($4400) could offer hits and runs if the Blue Jays put it together. And don’t sleep on George Springer ($4700), who’s been back in the leadoff spot this series and has put together a really nice run with a five-game hitting streak.

No August swoon for Seattle bats

The Mariners bats were momentarily silenced at T-Mobile Park on Tuesday night, but they’ve been red hot this month, leading the team to a 20-6 record in August. They should stack up nicely against Zach Neal, who’s starting for Oakland for the first time since 2016.

The Mariners have been excellent against right-handed pitchers this season, hitting .240/.323/.419 with a team wRC+ of 108 this season. During their hot streak this August, those numbers are even more impressive -- .279/.363/.486 and a wRC+ of 138 against right-handed pitching.

The Optimizer likes Seattle's Teoscar Hernandez ($4500) as one of your outfielders, and you could do worse than supplementing his production with leadoff man JP Crawford ($4300). Third baseman Eugenio Suarez ($4600) offers some nice pop and while you should avoid Julio Rodriguez, who is day-to-day after a late scratch on Tuesday night, Dominic Canzone ($3000) is a very cost-effective option who’s been on a nice run over the last 10 days, hitting .306/.306/.500.

Pitchers to consider

As for pitching, the wind is blowing in at Wrigley Field, and the Brewers' Brandon Woodruff ($10200) has looked every bit like the ace we know he can be since coming back from the injured list. He’s thrown 22.2 innings across four starts with 29 strikeouts, and only the Rangers scored more than two runs against Woodruff since his return.

Another pitcher to consider is the Giants' Logan Webb ($9500), who has gone five or more innings in 18 of 19 starts this season – including a seven-inning start with seven strikeouts against the Reds at Great American Ballpark in July.

Oracle is a much more pitcher-friendly environment, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see Webb surpass that strikeout total from July with a free-swinging Reds team that ranks 25th in MLB with a 24.5 percent strikeout rate.

There are 15 MLB games on tap for Tuesday and a ton of opportunities to cash. The Seattle Mariners-Oakland Athletics game is very intriguing on both sides, and the Mariners have been one of the hottest hitting teams in baseball over the last few weeks. Here are tonight’s Underdog and Prizepicks plays for Tuesday’s MLB slate.

Teoscar Hernandez: 1.5 Total Bases - Higher (Underdog)
Hernandez has been excellent against left-handed pitchers and Ken Waldichuk has let up six hits or more in three of his last four starts, and he’s sporting an earned run average over six.

He’s hit the over on one and a half total bases in seven straight games. He’s homered three times in his last three contests. Hernandez is scorching hot hitting the ball in August, and he sits with a .371 batting average this month. Waldichuk has been a weaker pitcher on the road than at home, and tonight’s game is in Seattle.

Ty France: 0.5 Singles - Higher (Underdog)
France has singled in five of his last seven contests, and he hits way better against lefties, hitting .309 against them. France is having one of his better hitting months as he’s batting .284 in August. Waldichuk is more of a groundball pitcher, and France hits over 42 percent when it comes to ground balls. Between the amount of hits Waldichuk has given up lately, his struggles on the road and France having a strong month at the dish, he should be able to get on base this evening.

Ken Waldichuk: 5.5 Hits Allowed - More (Prizepicks)
With Waldichuk giving up at least six hits in a few starts recently, it’s hard to think that he’ll be able to shut down the Mariners who have been the best hitting team by average in the MLB over the last two weeks and third best over the last seven days. Waldichuk has a 7.43 earned run average, and opponents hit .303 against him when he’s starting on the road. Seattle hits .262 against left-handed pitchers which is the 8th highest in the majors.

Jose Altuve: 2.0 Hits+Runs+RBIs - Higher (Underdog)
Altuve has crossed the plate nine times total over his last three games. During that span he hit the ball seven times and produced five RBIs. Altuve hits .335 against right-handed pitchers, and even though Boston Red Sox pitcher Brayan Bello hasn’t given up a ton of runs in his starts recently, he’s allowed six hits or more in five straight starts. Last week in this exact matchup, Bello gave up nine hits against Houston, and since then, Altuve has heated up. Altuve has also been a better hitter on the road than at home, and this game is in Boston.

Manny Machado: 0.5 Singles - Higher (Underdog)
Machado has been reaching base a lot lately. Tonight, he faces St. Louis Cardinals pitcher Zack Thompson who is not only a lefty, but he’s surrendered six hits in both of his last two outings. Machado hits .327 against left-handed pitchers and he’s hit a single in three of his last five games.

Marcus Semien: 0.5 Singles - Higher (Underdog)
Semien hits better against left-handed pitchers than right-handed pitchers. He’s hit singles in four of his last seven games, and the Rangers' bats have woken up a bit in the last week. Semien has a good history against New York Mets pitcher Jose Quintana, hitting the ball six times in 13 at-bats against him. He has the most hits for the Rangers this season.